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	His death is a human action because He has a full human nature and is truly human.		His death is a human action because He has a full human nature and is truly human.

	His death is a divine action because He participates fully in the Divine nature--He is ''homoousios'', consubstantial, "one in being" with the Father and the Spirit--and is truly God.		His death is a divine action because He participates fully in the Divine nature — He is ''homoousios'', consubstantial, "one in being" with the Father and the Spirit — and is truly God.

	The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross. Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."		The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross. Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."

	Professional sports are our great national example of vicarious satisfaction. The players on the field represent us. We're elevated by their victories and cast down by their defeats. We share with them vicariously. That's what is going on in the Eucharist and the lives of the saints. Communion of the saints. We're connected. We care. We bear each other up--or, as in the case of the priest scandals, we cast each other down.		Professional sports are our great national example of vicarious satisfaction. The players on the field represent us. We're elevated by their victories and cast down by their defeats. We share with them vicariously. That's what is going on in the Eucharist and the lives of the saints. Communion of the saints. We're connected. We care. We bear each other up — or, as in the case of the priest scandals, we cast each other down.

	== God is involved in every sin ==		== God is involved in every sin ==
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	They are all intrinsic and perfectly suited to the wrongdoing. The punishment "fits the crime."		They are all intrinsic and perfectly suited to the wrongdoing. The punishment "fits the crime."

	Love requires purification and amendment--for the sake of the forgiven sinner as well as for the sake of those injured by the sinner.		Love requires purification and amendment — for the sake of the forgiven sinner as well as for the sake of those injured by the sinner.

	== Jesus won the contest ==		== Jesus won the contest ==

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 == God is involved in every sin ==
 Our sins are a misuse of the power that God the Creator gave us.
-Our sins against love injure both God and our neighbor.
+Our sins against love injure both our relationship with God and with our neighbor.
-God's power to forgive sin is not arbitrary or extrinsic.  If there is a God, there are no secular relationships.  God is pure Spirit, which means that He is not bound by space or time.  He is the author of all of the laws of nature, not their subject.  Wherever two or three are gathered, there God is in their midst.  Wherever one sins against another, God is offended.  The sinner uses the power God provides to injure a person whom God loves with His whole heart.  God is not butting into someone else's business when He commands one to repent and the other to forgive.  The injury could not have happened except by God's permission; it cannot be healed without His participation.
+Suffering and death are not the greatest evil.
 There are no God-free relationships.  Secularism is short-sighted.
 == Paying debts ==

Mxmsj: /* Undoing wrongdoing */

2013-09-20T21:02:28Z

Undoing wrongdoing

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	Love requires purification and amendment--for the sake of the forgiven sinner as well as for the sake of those injured by the sinner.		Love requires purification and amendment--for the sake of the forgiven sinner as well as for the sake of those injured by the sinner.

			== Jesus won the contest ==

			Jesus was not crushed by His suffering.

			He overcame it.

			He endured it for the sake of the joy that was set before Him (Heb 12:2).

			Suffering and death are not the greatest evils.

			Sin is the greatest evil.

	== Undoing wrongdoing ==		== Undoing wrongdoing ==

Mxmsj: /* Paying debts */

2013-09-20T20:54:48Z

Paying debts

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	* We must repair what we have broken.		* We must repair what we have broken.
	* We must suffer what we have caused others to suffer.		* We must suffer what we have caused others to suffer.

			''Rounders:'' A career criminal bought up all of the debts of a poker player so that he could 'own' him. God buys up all of our debts to each other so that He can set us free. Everyone who has a claim on another must settle that claim through Jesus.

	== Punishments for sin ==		== Punishments for sin ==

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2013-04-20T14:02:22Z

God is involved in every sin

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	God's power to forgive sin is not arbitrary or extrinsic. If there is a God, there are no secular relationships. God is pure Spirit, which means that He is not bound by space or time. He is the author of all of the laws of nature, not their subject. Wherever two or three are gathered, there God is in their midst. Wherever one sins against another, God is offended. The sinner uses the power God provides to injure a person whom God loves with His whole heart. God is not butting into someone else's business when He commands one to repent and the other to forgive. The injury could not have happened except by God's permission; it cannot be healed without His participation.		God's power to forgive sin is not arbitrary or extrinsic. If there is a God, there are no secular relationships. God is pure Spirit, which means that He is not bound by space or time. He is the author of all of the laws of nature, not their subject. Wherever two or three are gathered, there God is in their midst. Wherever one sins against another, God is offended. The sinner uses the power God provides to injure a person whom God loves with His whole heart. God is not butting into someone else's business when He commands one to repent and the other to forgive. The injury could not have happened except by God's permission; it cannot be healed without His participation.

			There are no God-free relationships. Secularism is short-sighted.

	== Paying debts ==		== Paying debts ==

Mxmsj: /* God is involved in every sin */

2013-04-20T13:38:48Z

God is involved in every sin

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	Our sins against love injure both God and our neighbor.		Our sins against love injure both God and our neighbor.

			God's power to forgive sin is not arbitrary or extrinsic. If there is a God, there are no secular relationships. God is pure Spirit, which means that He is not bound by space or time. He is the author of all of the laws of nature, not their subject. Wherever two or three are gathered, there God is in their midst. Wherever one sins against another, God is offended. The sinner uses the power God provides to injure a person whom God loves with His whole heart. God is not butting into someone else's business when He commands one to repent and the other to forgive. The injury could not have happened except by God's permission; it cannot be healed without His participation.

	== Paying debts ==		== Paying debts ==

Mxmsj at 17:59, 25 January 2013

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 There are many theories about how Jesus' death on the Cross makes reparation for the sins of all mankind.
-I think all valid theories have to be some form of '''vicarious satisfaction.'''
+== The Problem ==
 Jesus acts as the representative (Latin: vicar) of all sinners.
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 His death is a human action because He has a full human nature and is truly human.
-His death is a divine action because He participates fully in the Divine nature (homoousios, consubstantial, "one in being" with the Father and the Spirit) and is truly God.
+His death is a divine action because He participates fully in the Divine nature--He is ''homoousios'', consubstantial, "one in being" with the Father and the Spirit--and is truly God.
 The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross.  Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."
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 Professional sports are our great national example of vicarious satisfaction.  The players on the field represent us.  We're elevated by their victories and cast down by their defeats.  We share with them vicariously.  That's what is going on in the Eucharist and the lives of the saints.  Communion of the saints.  We're connected.  We care.  We bear each other up--or, as in the case of the priest scandals, we cast each other down.
 [[Category:Salvation]]

Mxmsj at 14:11, 14 February 2012

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	The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross. Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."		The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross. Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."

			Professional sports are our great national example of vicarious satisfaction. The players on the field represent us. We're elevated by their victories and cast down by their defeats. We share with them vicariously. That's what is going on in the Eucharist and the lives of the saints. Communion of the saints. We're connected. We care. We bear each other up--or, as in the case of the priest scandals, we cast each other down.


	[[Category:Salvation]]		[[Category:Salvation]]

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There are many theories about how Jesus' death on the Cross makes reparation for the sins of all mankind.

I think all valid theories have to be some form of '''vicarious satisfaction.'''

Jesus acts as the representative (Latin: vicar) of all sinners.

He also acts as God's vicar.

His death is of infinite worth because He is a Divine Person, eternally begotten of the Father from before all time.

His death is a human action because He has a full human nature and is truly human.

His death is a divine action because He participates fully in the Divine nature (homoousios, consubstantial, "one in being" with the Father and the Spirit) and is truly God.

The action of Jesus on the Cross is the action of the Father and the Spirit as well, although only the Son became human and only the Son suffered and died on the Cross. Jesus' Incarnation and atoning action are "by the will of the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit."

[[Category:Salvation]]