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		<title>Mxmsj: Redirected page to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam#The Myth of Muslim Toleration</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Redirected page to &lt;a href=&quot;/cacwiki/index.php?title=Judaism,_Christianity,_and_Islam#The_Myth_of_Muslim_Toleration&quot; title=&quot;Judaism, Christianity, and Islam&quot;&gt;Judaism, Christianity, and Islam#The Myth of Muslim Toleration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Q: I&#039;m reading &#039;&#039;What Everyone Needs To Know About Islam&#039;&#039; by John Esposito.  He says that Muslims call Christians and Jews &#039;People of the Book&#039; and allowed them to practice their religion in Muslim countries.  He claims that at some times and in some places&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the Muslims were much more tolerant of Christians and Jews and gave them more religious freedom than Christians gave Muslims and Jews. Can you help me understand this excerpt?&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &quot;Historically&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;while the early expansion and conquests spread Islamic rule, Muslims did not try to impose their religion on others or force them to convert. As &quot;People of the Book,&quot; Jews and Christians were regarded as protected people, who were permitted to retain and practice their religions, be led by their own religious leaders, and be guided by their own religious laws and customs. For this protection, they paid a poll or head tax. While by modern standards this treatment amounted to second-class citizenship, in premodern times, it was very advanced.&quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &quot;No such tolerance existed in Christendom, where Jews, Muslims, and other Christians (those who did not accept the authority of the pope) were subjected to forced conversion, persecution, or expulsion.&quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &quot;Although the Islamic ideal was not followed everywhere and at all times, it existed and flourished in many contexts.&quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:: The prime example is Al-Andalus (Andalusia), the Moorish (African Muslim) territory in southern Spain and Portugal.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus&lt;/del&gt;#&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Non-Muslims_under_the_Caliphate &quot;Non-Muslims under the Caliphate.&quot;]&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::** David Levering Lewis, &#039;&#039;God&#039;s Crucible: Islam and the Making of Europe, 570-1215&#039;&#039;, (New York: W. W. Norton and Company, 2008).&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Mxmsj: Created page with &quot;==== Dhimmitude ==== * Question about how Muslims treat Christians and Jews as &quot;People of the Book.&quot;  &#039;&#039;&#039;Short Form&#039;&#039;&#039;  :: Does the Koran call Jews and Christians &quot;People of the ...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==== Dhimmitude ==== * Question about how Muslims treat Christians and Jews as &amp;quot;People of the Book.&amp;quot;  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Short Form&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  :: Does the Koran call Jews and Christians &amp;quot;People of the ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==== Dhimmitude ====&lt;br /&gt;
* Question about how Muslims treat Christians and Jews as &amp;quot;People of the Book.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Does the Koran call Jews and Christians &amp;quot;People of the Book&amp;quot;?  Have Muslims historically been more tolerant of Christians and Jews than Christians have been of Muslims and Jews?&lt;br /&gt;
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Q: I&amp;#039;m reading &amp;#039;&amp;#039;What Everyone Needs To Know About Islam&amp;#039;&amp;#039; by John Esposito.  He says that Muslims call Christians and Jews &amp;#039;People of the Book&amp;#039; and allowed them to practice their religion in Muslim countries.  He claims that at some times and in some places, the Muslims were much more tolerant of Christians and Jews and gave them more religious freedom than Christians gave Muslims and Jews. Can you help me understand this excerpt?&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Historically, while the early expansion and conquests spread Islamic rule, Muslims did not try to impose their religion on others or force them to convert. As &amp;quot;People of the Book,&amp;quot; Jews and Christians were regarded as protected people, who were permitted to retain and practice their religions, be led by their own religious leaders, and be guided by their own religious laws and customs. For this protection, they paid a poll or head tax. While by modern standards this treatment amounted to second-class citizenship, in premodern times, it was very advanced.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;No such tolerance existed in Christendom, where Jews, Muslims, and other Christians (those who did not accept the authority of the pope) were subjected to forced conversion, persecution, or expulsion.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Although the Islamic ideal was not followed everywhere and at all times, it existed and flourished in many contexts.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The prime example is Al-Andalus (Andalusia), the Moorish (African Muslim) territory in southern Spain and Portugal.&lt;br /&gt;
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::* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus#Non-Muslims_under_the_Caliphate &amp;quot;Non-Muslims under the Caliphate.&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
::** David Levering Lewis, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;God&amp;#039;s Crucible: Islam and the Making of Europe, 570-1215&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, (New York: W. W. Norton and Company, 2008).&lt;br /&gt;
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