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	== Development of Doctrine ==		== Development of Doctrine ==
	* John Henry Newman		* John Henry Newman
			** [[Development of Doctrine]]
	* Emergence and articulation of faith: Trinity, Incarnation, dogma, Magisterium, sacraments, Real Presence, etc.		* Emergence and articulation of faith: Trinity, Incarnation, dogma, Magisterium, sacraments, Real Presence, etc.
	* "No salvation outside the Church."		* "No salvation outside the Church."

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	:: Romans 5:12 as teaching the doctrine of Original Sin.		:: Romans 5:12 as teaching the doctrine of Original Sin.
	:: John 3:5 -- necessity of water in the sacrament of Baptism.		:: John 3:5 — necessity of water in the sacrament of Baptism.
	:: Matthew 26:26, Mark 14:22, Luke 22:19, 1 Cor 11:23 -- Real Presence in the Eucharist.		:: Matthew 26:26, Mark 14:22, Luke 22:19, 1 Cor 11:23 — Real Presence in the Eucharist.
	:: John 20:22-23 -- the apostles received the power to forgive and retain sin in the sacrament of confession.		:: John 20:22-23 — the apostles received the power to forgive and retain sin in the sacrament of confession.
	:: James 5:14 -- the sacrament of the anointing of the sick.		:: James 5:14 — the sacrament of the anointing of the sick.
	:: Luke 22:19 and 1 Cor 11:24 -- the apostles were made priests and the Mass is a sacrifice		:: Luke 22:19 and 1 Cor 11:24 — the apostles were made priests and the Mass is a sacrifice

	''All of the dogmas listed in the section above set boundaries on the interpretation of the Scriptures.''		''All of the dogmas listed in the section above set boundaries on the interpretation of the Scriptures.''

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	; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1tm/6:20 1 Tim. 6:20]		; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1tm/6:20 1 Tim. 6:20]

	: Ὦ Τιμόθεε τὴν παραθήκην φύλαξον ἐκτρεπόμενος τὰς βεβήλους κενοφωνίας καὶ ἀντιθέσεις τῆς ψευδωνύμου γνώσεως 21 ἥν τινες ἐπαγγελλόμενοι περὶ τὴν πίστιν ἠστόχησαν Ἡ χάρις μεθ’ ὑμῶν ⧼Ἀμήν⧽		: Ὦ Τιμόθεε '''τὴν παραθήκην''' φύλαξον ἐκτρεπόμενος τὰς βεβήλους κενοφωνίας καὶ ἀντιθέσεις τῆς ψευδωνύμου γνώσεως 21 ἥν τινες ἐπαγγελλόμενοι περὶ τὴν πίστιν ἠστόχησαν Ἡ χάρις μεθ’ ὑμῶν ⧼Ἀμήν⧽

	: "O Timothy, guard '''what has been entrusted to you'''. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge."		: "O Timothy, guard '''what has been entrusted to you'''. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge."
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	; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:11 2 Tim 1:12]		; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:11 2 Tim 1:12]

	: Δι’ ἣν αἰτίαν καὶ ταῦτα πάσχω ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἐπαισχύνομαι οἶδα γὰρ ᾧ πεπίστευκα καὶ πέπεισμαι ὅτι δυνατός ἐστιν τὴν παραθήκην μου φυλάξαι εἰς ἐκείνην τὴν ἡμέραν		: Δι’ ἣν αἰτίαν καὶ ταῦτα πάσχω ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἐπαισχύνομαι οἶδα γὰρ ᾧ πεπίστευκα καὶ πέπεισμαι ὅτι δυνατός ἐστιν '''τὴν παραθήκην μου''' φυλάξαι εἰς ἐκείνην τὴν ἡμέραν

	: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."		: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."

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	== Scriptural View of [[Tradition]] ==		== Scriptural View of [[Tradition]] ==
	~~â€œNow~~ I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.~~â€~~ (1 Corinthians 11:2 NKJV)		"Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you." (1 Corinthians 11:2 NKJV)

	~~â€œTherefore~~, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.~~â€~~ (2 Thessalonians 2:15 NKJV)		"Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle." (2 Thessalonians 2:15 NKJV)

	~~â€œBut~~ we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us.~~â€~~ (2 Thessalonians 3:6 NKJV)		"But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us." (2 Thessalonians 3:6 NKJV)

	Hebrews 1: Jesus is the last and definitive Word of God.		Hebrews 1: Jesus is the last and definitive Word of God.
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	; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1tm/6:20 1 Tim. 6:20]		; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1tm/6:20 1 Tim. 6:20]

	: Ï‰ Ï„Î¹Î¼Î¿Î¸ÎµÎµ '''Ï„Î·Î½ Ï€Î±ÏÎ±Î¸Î·ÎºÎ·Î½''' Ï†Ï…Î»Î±Î¾Î¿Î½ ÎµÎºÏ„ÏÎµÏ€Î¿Î¼ÎµÎ½Î¿Ï‚ Ï„Î±Ï‚ Î²ÎµÎ²Î·Î»Î¿Ï…Ï‚ ÎºÎµÎ½Î¿Ï†Ï‰Î½Î¹Î±Ï‚ ÎºÎ±Î¹ Î±Î½Ï„Î¹Î¸ÎµÏƒÎµÎ¹Ï‚ Ï„Î·Ï‚ ÏˆÎµÏ…Î´Ï‰Î½Ï…Î¼Î¿Ï… Î³Î½Ï‰ÏƒÎµÏ‰Ï‚		: Ὦ Τιμόθεε τὴν παραθήκην φύλαξον ἐκτρεπόμενος τὰς βεβήλους κενοφωνίας καὶ ἀντιθέσεις τῆς ψευδωνύμου γνώσεως 21 ἥν τινες ἐπαγγελλόμενοι περὶ τὴν πίστιν ἠστόχησαν Ἡ χάρις μεθ’ ὑμῶν ⧼Ἀμήν⧽

	: "O Timothy, guard '''what has been entrusted to you'''. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge."		: "O Timothy, guard '''what has been entrusted to you'''. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge."
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	; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:11 2 Tim 1:12]		; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:11 2 Tim 1:12]

	: Î´Î¹ Î·Î½ Î±Î¹Ï„Î¹Î±Î½ ÎºÎ±Î¹ Ï„Î±Ï…Ï„Î± Ï€Î±ÏƒÏ‡Ï‰ Î±Î»Î» Î¿Ï…Îº ÎµÏ€Î±Î¹ÏƒÏ‡Ï…Î½Î¿Î¼Î±Î¹ Î¿Î¹Î´Î± Î³Î±Ï Ï‰ Ï€ÎµÏ€Î¹ÏƒÏ„ÎµÏ…ÎºÎ± ÎºÎ±Î¹ Ï€ÎµÏ€ÎµÎ¹ÏƒÎ¼Î±Î¹ Î¿Ï„Î¹ Î´Ï…Î½Î±Ï„Î¿Ï‚ ÎµÏƒÏ„Î¹Î½ '''Ï„Î·Î½ Ï€Î±ÏÎ±Î¸Î·ÎºÎ·Î½''' Î¼Î¿Ï… Ï†Ï…Î»Î±Î¾Î±Î¹ ÎµÎ¹Ï‚ ÎµÎºÎµÎ¹Î½Î·Î½ Ï„Î·Î½ Î·Î¼ÎµÏÎ±Î½		: Δι’ ἣν αἰτίαν καὶ ταῦτα πάσχω ἀλλ’ οὐκ ἐπαισχύνομαι οἶδα γὰρ ᾧ πεπίστευκα καὶ πέπεισμαι ὅτι δυνατός ἐστιν τὴν παραθήκην μου φυλάξαι εἰς ἐκείνην τὴν ἡμέραν

	: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."		: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."
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	; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:13 2 Tim 1:14]		; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:13 2 Tim 1:14]

	: '''~~Ï„á½´Î½ ÎºÎ±Î»á½´Î½ Ï€Î±ÏÎ±Î¸Î®ÎºÎ·Î½~~''' Ï†ÏÎ»Î±Î¾Î¿Î½ Î´Î¹á½° Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î±Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î³Î¯Î¿Ï… Ï„Î¿á¿¦ á¼Î½Î¿Î¹ÎºÎ¿á¿¦Î½Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î½ á¼¡Î¼á¿–Î½.		: '''τὴν καλὴν παραθήκην''' φύλαξον διὰ Πνεύματος Ἁγίου τοῦ ἐνοικοῦντος ἐν ἡμῖν

	: "Guard '''this rich trust''' with the help of the holy Spirit that dwells within us."		: "Guard '''this rich trust''' with the help of the holy Spirit that dwells within us."

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 * Natural law: reason can recognize the essential difference between good and evil.
 * Canon of the Old and New Testaments
 === Rejection of Heresies ===

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	'''Disciplines''' are practical decisions made by the Church about how to act in particular circumstances. The discipline imposed by the prudential judgments of the stewards of the Church may be changed by subsequent stewards. Discipline is not dogma. Changes in discipline do not justify changes in doctrine.		'''Disciplines''' are practical decisions made by the Church about how to act in particular circumstances. The discipline imposed by the prudential judgments of the stewards of the Church may be changed by subsequent stewards. Discipline is not dogma. Changes in discipline do not justify changes in doctrine.

	== Scriptural View of Tradition ==		== Scriptural View of [[Tradition]] ==
	â€œNow I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.â€ (1 Corinthians 11:2 NKJV)		â€œNow I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.â€ (1 Corinthians 11:2 NKJV)

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	â€œBut we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us.â€ (2 Thessalonians 3:6 NKJV)		â€œBut we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us.â€ (2 Thessalonians 3:6 NKJV)

	Hebrews 1: Jesus is the last and definitive Word of God.		Hebrews 1: Jesus is the last and definitive Word of God.

	== Deposit of Faith ==		== Deposit of Faith ==

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	A '''dogma''' is a proposition that expresses a truth revealed to us by God. Dogmas are irreversible Church teachings; they define the boundaries of the faith and must be accepted by all assenting Catholics.		A '''dogma''' is a proposition that expresses a truth revealed to us by God. Dogmas are irreversible Church teachings about faith and morals; they define the boundaries of the faith and guidelines for acting rightly and must be accepted by all assenting Catholics.

	Catholics may question dogma in the sense of wondering how a particular teaching fits in with all of the rest of the creed, natural theology, philosophy, and our life experience.		Catholics may question dogma in the sense of wondering how a particular teaching fits in with all of the rest of the creed, natural theology, philosophy, and our life experience.

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	The '''Deposit of Faith''' is all that God has revealed to us, both in the time of the Old Testament and in the New. In neither era was revelation limited to the written word. What was written was the fruit of what was revealed to and by inspired human beings. In the New Testament, it is God Himself who speaks to us in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.		The '''Deposit of Faith''' is all that God has revealed to us, both in the time of the Old Testament and in the New. In neither era was revelation limited to the written word. What was written was the fruit of what was revealed to and by inspired human beings. In the New Testament, it is God Himself who speaks to us in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.

	The Church is obliged to preserve the '''Deposit of Faith''' in its entirety. We may ~~not~~ add to or subtract from what God has revealed to us. Like St. Paul, we must "hand on what was handed on" to us.		The Church is obliged to preserve the '''Deposit of Faith''' in its entirety. We may neither add to nor subtract from what God has revealed to us. Like St. Paul, we must "hand on what was handed on" to us.

	; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1cor/15:1 1 Cor 15:1-8]		; [http://www.usccb.org/bible/1cor/15:1 1 Cor 15:1-8]

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	: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."		: "On this account I am suffering these things; but I am not ashamed, for I know him in whom I have believed and am confident that he is able to guard '''what has been entrusted to me''' until that day."

	; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:13 2 Tim 1:14		; [http://usccb.org/bible/2tm/1:13 2 Tim 1:14]

	: '''Ï„á½´Î½ ÎºÎ±Î»á½´Î½ Ï€Î±ÏÎ±Î¸Î®ÎºÎ·Î½''' Ï†ÏÎ»Î±Î¾Î¿Î½ Î´Î¹á½° Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î±Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î³Î¯Î¿Ï… Ï„Î¿á¿¦ á¼Î½Î¿Î¹ÎºÎ¿á¿¦Î½Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î½ á¼¡Î¼á¿–Î½.		: '''Ï„á½´Î½ ÎºÎ±Î»á½´Î½ Ï€Î±ÏÎ±Î¸Î®ÎºÎ·Î½''' Ï†ÏÎ»Î±Î¾Î¿Î½ Î´Î¹á½° Ï€Î½ÎµÏÎ¼Î±Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î³Î¯Î¿Ï… Ï„Î¿á¿¦ á¼Î½Î¿Î¹ÎºÎ¿á¿¦Î½Ï„Î¿Ï‚ á¼Î½ á¼¡Î¼á¿–Î½.

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 == Development of Doctrine ==