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	He succeeded his mother, Mary, Queen of Scots, after she was forced to yield the throne to him.		He succeeded his mother, Mary, Queen of Scots, after she was forced to yield the throne to him.

	As a Protestant Bible, the KJV treats the [[extra books\|seven extra books]] of the [[Septuagint]] as deuterocanonical or apocryphal--books that were not inspired by God and intended by God to be included in the Bible.		As a Protestant Bible, the KJV treats the [[extra books\|seven extra books]] of the [[Septuagint]] as deuterocanonical or apocryphal — books that were not inspired by God and intended by God to be included in the Bible.

	== A few favorite verses ==		== A few favorite verses ==
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	* "Have you anything to eat?" (Jn 21:5). Greek: ''me ti '''prosphagion''' exete''?		* "Have you anything to eat?" (Jn 21:5). Greek: ''me ti '''prosphagion''' exete''?
	** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".		** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures — in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
	** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."		** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."
	* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated ‘fish’ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].		* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated ‘fish’ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].
	* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.		* '''ichthys''' — Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.
	* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).		* '''kreas''' — Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).
	* The KJV similarly translates '''"trophas"''' ("something to eat", from trefw, "to feed"; root of our our word [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=-trophy "trophy"]) as "meat" in John 4:8--"His disciples had gone into town to buy ''something to eat.''"		* The KJV similarly translates '''"trophas"''' ("something to eat", from trefw, "to feed"; root of our our word [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=-trophy "trophy"]) as "meat" in John 4:8 — "His disciples had gone into town to buy ''something to eat.''"

	== Links ==		== Links ==

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	** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".		** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
	** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."		** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."
	* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated ~~â€˜fish’~~ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].		* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated ‘fish’ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].
	* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.		* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.
	* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).		* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).

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	** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".		** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
	** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."		** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."
	* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated ~~â€˜fishâ€™~~ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].		* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated â€˜fish’ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].
	* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.		* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.
	* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).		* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).

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	== A few favorite verses ==		== A few favorite verses ==
	The King James Version has shaped the English language.~~:::~~ It has an undeniable power and beauty, despite its deficiencies as an accurate and complete translation of the Bible.		The King James Version has shaped the English language. It has an undeniable power and beauty, despite its deficiencies as an accurate and complete translation of the Bible.

	:: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ''whosoever believeth'' in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."		:: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ''whosoever believeth'' in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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	:: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."		:: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

			:: "Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning" (Ps 30:5).

	=== Thou, thee, thy ===		=== Thou, thee, thy ===

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	** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".		** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
	** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."		** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."
	* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated â€˜fishâ€™ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.].		* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated â€˜fishâ€™ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 (Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.)].
	* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.		* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.
	* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).		* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).

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	''I don't remember how the question of how to translate this verse arose. It may be part of a minor polemic against the distinction Catholics make between "meat" and "fish" on fast days.''		''I don't remember how the question of how to translate this verse arose. It may be part of a minor polemic against the distinction Catholics make between "meat" and "fish" on fast days.''

	* "Have you anything to eat?" (Jn 21:5). Greek: ''me ti prosphagion exete''?		* "Have you anything to eat?" (Jn 21:5). Greek: ''me ti '''prosphagion''' exete''?
	** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".		** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
	** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."		** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."

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Links

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	We get all three in the angelic salutation: "The Lord is with '''thee.''' Blessed art '''thou''' among women, and blessed is the fruit of '''thy''' womb, Jesus."		We get all three in the angelic salutation: "The Lord is with '''thee.''' Blessed art '''thou''' among women, and blessed is the fruit of '''thy''' womb, Jesus."

			== Have ye any meat? ==

			''I don't remember how the question of how to translate this verse arose. It may be part of a minor polemic against the distinction Catholics make between "meat" and "fish" on fast days.''

			* "Have you anything to eat?" (Jn 21:5). Greek: ''me ti prosphagion exete''?
			** [http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/4371.htm ''Prosphagion''] appears only once in the Scriptures--in this passage. Strong's dictionary says that it is something taken with bread and suggests that the right translation is "fish".
			** King James version: "Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No."
			* "It is interesting to note (as does the marginal note of the New American Standard Version) that the Greek word (''prosphagion'') translated â€˜fishâ€™ actually refers to that which is eaten with bread, as a kind of relish. Our Lord may therefore not only be asking about their catch in general. He might be implying that they not only have failed to make a catch (and thus their living), but that neither have they been able, apart from divine guidance, to provide themselves with enough for their meal. In the marvelous catch that was to follow, Jesus provided a catch, an income, and their immediate need for a meal" [http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=631 Bob Deffinbaugh, Th.M.].
			* '''ichthys''' -- Greek word for fish. Ichthyology. IXTHUS.
			* '''kreas''' -- Greek word for meat. Gave rise to our word [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creosote "creosote"] because creosote is an antiseptic ("preserves the meat", kreas + soter, savior). Also the root of "pancreas" (literally, "all meat"); "sweetbreads" are "all meat" (the thymus or pancreas of a calf).
			* The KJV similarly translates '''"trophas"''' ("something to eat", from trefw, "to feed"; root of our our word [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=-trophy "trophy"]) as "meat" in John 4:8--"His disciples had gone into town to buy ''something to eat.''"

	== Links ==		== Links ==
	* [[Bible translations]].		* [[Bible translations]].
	* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version ''Wikipedia,'' "Authorized King James Version."]		* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version ''Wikipedia,'' "Authorized King James Version."]
			* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version ''Wikipedia,'' "History of the Authorized King James Version."]
	* [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/weekinreview/24mcgrath.html "Why the King James Bible Endures."]		* [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/weekinreview/24mcgrath.html "Why the King James Bible Endures."]


	[[Category:Scripture Studies]]		[[Category:Scripture Studies]]

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	The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version King James version of the Bible] was composed in 1604-1611 AD.		The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version King James version (KJV) of the Bible] was composed in 1604-1611 AD.

	King James I of England was also King James VI of Scotland.		King James I of England was also King James VI of Scotland.
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	He succeeded his mother, Mary, Queen of Scots, after she was forced to yield the throne to him.		He succeeded his mother, Mary, Queen of Scots, after she was forced to yield the throne to him.

	As a Protestant Bible, the ~~KBJ~~ treats the [[extra books\|seven extra books]] of the [[Septuagint]] as deuterocanonical or apocryphal--books that were not inspired by God and intended by God to be included in the Bible.		As a Protestant Bible, the KJV treats the [[extra books\|seven extra books]] of the [[Septuagint]] as deuterocanonical or apocryphal--books that were not inspired by God and intended by God to be included in the Bible.

	== A few favorite verses ==		== A few favorite verses ==
	The King James ~~Bible~~ has shaped the English language.::: It has an undeniable power and beauty, despite its deficiencies as an accurate and complete translation of the Bible.		The King James Version has shaped the English language.::: It has an undeniable power and beauty, despite its deficiencies as an accurate and complete translation of the Bible.

	:: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ''whosoever believeth'' in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."		:: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ''whosoever believeth'' in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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	== Links ==		== Links ==
			* [[Bible translations]].
	* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version ''Wikipedia,'' "Authorized King James Version."]		* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version ''Wikipedia,'' "Authorized King James Version."]
	* [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/weekinreview/24mcgrath.html "Why the King James Bible Endures."]		* [http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/weekinreview/24mcgrath.html "Why the King James Bible Endures."]

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	:: "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors."		:: "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors."

			:: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

	=== Thou, thee, thy ===		=== Thou, thee, thy ===

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	=== Thou, thee, thy ===		=== Thou, thee, thy ===

	~~The~~ are second person, singular pronouns.		These are second person, singular pronouns.

	"Thou" is nominative singular, like "tu" in French: "Thou shalt conceive and bear a son."		"Thou" is nominative singular, like "tu" in French: "Thou shalt conceive and bear a son."