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	:: Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, wrote his critical book, ''Natural Right and History,'' in 1953. That was mid-century and he was already standing against the currents of relativism. Already they were deeply at work. Here was a country established on the Declaration of ~~Independenceâ€”on~~ truths grounded in nature, objective moral truths, self-evident ~~truthsâ€”and~~ yet falling into the wave of relativism. Strauss spoke about the effect of German philosophy on ~~Americaâ€”and~~ here I'm ~~paraphrasingâ€”that~~ ''it would not be the first time that a country defeated on the battlefield imposed on the victor the yoke of its own thought'' (emphasis added). Here we defeated the Germans, and yet German philosophy in its worst forms was taking hold in this country.		:: Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, wrote his critical book, ''Natural Right and History,'' in 1953. That was mid-century and he was already standing against the currents of relativism. Already they were deeply at work. Here was a country established on the Declaration of Independence — on truths grounded in nature, objective moral truths, self-evident truths — and yet falling into the wave of relativism. Strauss spoke about the effect of German philosophy on America — and here I'm paraphrasing — that ''it would not be the first time that a country defeated on the battlefield imposed on the victor the yoke of its own thought'' (emphasis added). Here we defeated the Germans, and yet German philosophy in its worst forms was taking hold in this country.

	== Links ==		== Links ==
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	:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cooke's career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a “liturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cooke's solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests ~~â€”~~ mostly married ~~â€”~~ that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church ~~â€”~~ a time when the “promise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...		:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cooke's career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a “liturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cooke's solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests — mostly married — that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church — a time when the “promise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...

	:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be “so irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is “totally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is “causing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.		:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be “so irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is “totally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is “causing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.

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	:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhr's famous words, with the belief that ~~â€œA~~ God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.” Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washington's National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that ~~â€œI~~ describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”		:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhr's famous words, with the belief that “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.” Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washington's National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that “I describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”

	== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==		== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==
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	:: In a twist on Robert Frost's old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, ~~â€œBeing~~ spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.”		:: In a twist on Robert Frost's old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, “Being spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.”

	== Relativism ==		== Relativism ==
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	:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cooke's career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a ~~â€œliturgical~~ starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cooke's solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the ~~â€œpromise~~ of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...		:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cooke's career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a “liturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cooke's solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the “promise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...

	:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be ~~â€œso~~ irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is ~~â€œtotally~~ incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is ~~â€œcausing~~ great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.		:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be “so irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is “totally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is “causing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.

	== "Call to Disobedience" ==		== "Call to Disobedience" ==
	[http://www.patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/07/13/call-to-disobedience-cardinal-to-meet-with-dissident-priests/ ~~â€œCall~~ to Disobedience”: cardinal to meet with dissident priests.]		[http://www.patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/07/13/call-to-disobedience-cardinal-to-meet-with-dissident-priests/ “Call to Disobedience”: cardinal to meet with dissident priests.]

	== Roger Haight, SJ ==		== Roger Haight, SJ ==
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	In the statement, the Committee asserts that the ~~â€œbasic~~ problem with Quest for the Living God as a work of Catholic theology is that the book does not take the faith of the Church as its starting point. Instead, the author employs standards from outside the faith to criticize and to revise in a radical fashion the conception of God revealed in Scripture and taught by the Magisterium.” ...		In the statement, the Committee asserts that the “basic problem with Quest for the Living God as a work of Catholic theology is that the book does not take the faith of the Church as its starting point. Instead, the author employs standards from outside the faith to criticize and to revise in a radical fashion the conception of God revealed in Scripture and taught by the Magisterium.” ...

	The Committee contrasts Sister Johnson's assertion that the Church's names for God are metaphors that do not apply to the reality of God with the traditional Catholic understanding. The Church teaches, based on patristic and medieval theology, that certain names truly apply to God by analogy and are not merely metaphors.		The Committee contrasts Sister Johnson's assertion that the Church's names for God are metaphors that do not apply to the reality of God with the traditional Catholic understanding. The Church teaches, based on patristic and medieval theology, that certain names truly apply to God by analogy and are not merely metaphors.

	~~â€œWhile~~ Sr. Johnson is well within the Catholic theological tradition when she maintains that human language is never adequate to express the reality of God, she departs from that tradition when she makes the more radical claim that human language does not attain to the reality of God,” the statement says.		“While Sr. Johnson is well within the Catholic theological tradition when she maintains that human language is never adequate to express the reality of God, she departs from that tradition when she makes the more radical claim that human language does not attain to the reality of God,” the statement says.

	The Committee also criticizes her characterization of the Church's names for God as humanly-constructed metaphors that can be replaced by novel human constructions that are intended to help transform society in a positive way by promoting the socio-political status of women.		The Committee also criticizes her characterization of the Church's names for God as humanly-constructed metaphors that can be replaced by novel human constructions that are intended to help transform society in a positive way by promoting the socio-political status of women.

	~~â€œWhat~~ is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,” the statement says. ~~â€œThe~~ names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."		“What is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,” the statement says. “The names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."
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	:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard ~~Niebuhrâ€™s~~ famous words, with the belief that â€œA God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.” Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of ~~Washingtonâ€™s~~ National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that â€œI describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”		:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhr's famous words, with the belief that â€œA God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.” Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washington's National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that â€œI describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”

	== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==		== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==
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	:: In a twist on Robert ~~Frostâ€™s~~ old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, â€œBeing spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.”		:: In a twist on Robert Frost's old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, â€œBeing spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.”

	== Relativism ==		== Relativism ==
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	Imagine ~~thereâ€™s~~ no countries<br>		Imagine there's no countries<br>
	It ~~isnâ€™t~~ hard to do<br>		It isn't hard to do<br>
	Nothing to kill or die for<br>		Nothing to kill or die for<br>
	And all ~~religionâ€™s~~ true.		And all religion's true.
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	The original was "And no religion too." When pressed by thousands of angry fans about this change, Cee Lo Tweeted: "Yo I meant no disrespect by changing the lyric guys! I was trying to say a world were u could believe what u wanted ~~thatâ€™s~~ all." In other words, Cee Lo is turning the word "true" as a meaningless sound.		The original was "And no religion too." When pressed by thousands of angry fans about this change, Cee Lo Tweeted: "Yo I meant no disrespect by changing the lyric guys! I was trying to say a world were u could believe what u wanted that's all." In other words, Cee Lo is turning the word "true" as a meaningless sound.

	I spent a frustrating hour a few days before that arguing with a young man whose conditioned response to my objections was, "That's just what you believe," as if that settled our disagreements. Like Cee Lo, he seemed to be saying that "if a proposition has been identified as a belief, then it the truth or falsity of that belief is beyond dispute. No one can challenge another person's beliefs, because they will do so on the basis of their own beliefs, which, by my definition, means 'neither true nor false.' Everything you say is ''only your opinion.'' Everything I say is ''only my opinion.'' There is no way to judge between one person's opinion and another's."		I spent a frustrating hour a few days before that arguing with a young man whose conditioned response to my objections was, "That's just what you believe," as if that settled our disagreements. Like Cee Lo, he seemed to be saying that "if a proposition has been identified as a belief, then it the truth or falsity of that belief is beyond dispute. No one can challenge another person's beliefs, because they will do so on the basis of their own beliefs, which, by my definition, means 'neither true nor false.' Everything you say is ''only your opinion.'' Everything I say is ''only my opinion.'' There is no way to judge between one person's opinion and another's."
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	:: Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, wrote his critical book, ''Natural Right and History,'' in 1953. That was mid-century and he was already standing against the currents of relativism. Already they were deeply at work. Here was a country established on the Declaration of Independenceâ€”on truths grounded in nature, objective moral truths, self-evident truthsâ€”and yet falling into the wave of relativism. Strauss spoke about the effect of German philosophy on Americaâ€”and here ~~Iâ€™m~~ paraphrasingâ€”that ''it would not be the first time that a country defeated on the battlefield imposed on the victor the yoke of its own thought'' (emphasis added). Here we defeated the Germans, and yet German philosophy in its worst forms was taking hold in this country.		:: Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago, wrote his critical book, ''Natural Right and History,'' in 1953. That was mid-century and he was already standing against the currents of relativism. Already they were deeply at work. Here was a country established on the Declaration of Independenceâ€”on truths grounded in nature, objective moral truths, self-evident truthsâ€”and yet falling into the wave of relativism. Strauss spoke about the effect of German philosophy on Americaâ€”and here I'm paraphrasingâ€”that ''it would not be the first time that a country defeated on the battlefield imposed on the victor the yoke of its own thought'' (emphasis added). Here we defeated the Germans, and yet German philosophy in its worst forms was taking hold in this country.

	== Links ==		== Links ==
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	:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized ~~Cookeâ€™s~~ career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a â€œliturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, ~~Cookeâ€™s~~ solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the â€œpromise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...		:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cooke's career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a â€œliturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cooke's solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the â€œpromise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...

	:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be â€œso irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is â€œtotally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is â€œcausing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.		:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be â€œso irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is â€œtotally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is â€œcausing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.

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	:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhrâ€™s famous words, with the belief that â€œA God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.~~â€~~ Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washingtonâ€™s National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that â€œI describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.~~â€~~		:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhrâ€™s famous words, with the belief that â€œA God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.” Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washingtonâ€™s National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that â€œI describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.”

	== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==		== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==
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	:; [http://www.catholic.com/blog/todd-aglialoro/me-my-god-and-i "Me, My God, and I."]		:; [http://www.catholic.com/blog/todd-aglialoro/me-my-god-and-i "Me, My God, and I."]

	:: In a twist on Robert Frostâ€™s old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, â€œBeing spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.~~â€~~		:: In a twist on Robert Frostâ€™s old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, â€œBeing spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.”

	== Relativism ==		== Relativism ==
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	:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cookeâ€™s career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a â€œliturgical ~~starvationâ€~~ for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cookeâ€™s solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the â€œpromise of Vatican ~~IIâ€~~ was most vivid to them. ...		:::Criticizing the current separation of ordained from laity has characterized Cookeâ€™s career for the past 30 years. Claiming that the shortage of priests will lead to a â€œliturgical starvation” for an expanding U.S. Catholic population, Cookeâ€™s solution is to empower the laity and allow married priests to assume leadership once again. A member of CORPUS, an advocacy organization of former priests â€” mostly married â€” that lobbies for optional celibacy in the Catholic Church, Cooke is also a board member of Call to Action, one of the organizations spearheading the American Catholic Council. It is no coincidence that Detroit has been chosen for the site of the American Catholic Council meeting on Pentecost: For the dissidents, the first Call to Action Conference in Detroit in 1976 is kind of a Catholic Woodstock that these now-aging revolutionaries all speak of as the most hopeful time of the Church â€” a time when the â€œpromise of Vatican II” was most vivid to them. ...

	:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be â€œso irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic ~~faithâ€~~ that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is â€œtotally incompatible with the Catholic ~~faithâ€~~ and is â€œcausing great damage to the Church of Christ,~~â€~~ Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.		:::A few years ago, the activities of Call to Action were deemed to be â€œso irreconcilable with a coherent living of the Catholic faith” that the Vatican publicly affirmed an Episcopal decree of excommunication for any member of the dissident organization. Claiming that Call to Action is â€œtotally incompatible with the Catholic faith” and is â€œcausing great damage to the Church of Christ,” Cardinal Giovanni Battista confirmed that membership in Call to Action causes the member to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Despite this, many Catholic theologians teaching on Catholic campuses retain an active membership in Call to Action, openly participating in meetings and conferences.

	== "Call to Disobedience" ==		== "Call to Disobedience" ==
	[http://www.patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/07/13/call-to-disobedience-cardinal-to-meet-with-dissident-priests/ â€œCall to ~~Disobedienceâ€~~: cardinal to meet with dissident priests.]		[http://www.patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/07/13/call-to-disobedience-cardinal-to-meet-with-dissident-priests/ â€œCall to Disobedience”: cardinal to meet with dissident priests.]

	== Roger Haight, SJ ==		== Roger Haight, SJ ==
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	In the statement, the Committee asserts that the â€œbasic problem with Quest for the Living God as a work of Catholic theology is that the book does not take the faith of the Church as its starting point. Instead, the author employs standards from outside the faith to criticize and to revise in a radical fashion the conception of God revealed in Scripture and taught by the Magisterium.~~â€~~ ...		In the statement, the Committee asserts that the â€œbasic problem with Quest for the Living God as a work of Catholic theology is that the book does not take the faith of the Church as its starting point. Instead, the author employs standards from outside the faith to criticize and to revise in a radical fashion the conception of God revealed in Scripture and taught by the Magisterium.” ...

	The Committee contrasts Sister Johnson's assertion that the Church's names for God are metaphors that do not apply to the reality of God with the traditional Catholic understanding. The Church teaches, based on patristic and medieval theology, that certain names truly apply to God by analogy and are not merely metaphors.		The Committee contrasts Sister Johnson's assertion that the Church's names for God are metaphors that do not apply to the reality of God with the traditional Catholic understanding. The Church teaches, based on patristic and medieval theology, that certain names truly apply to God by analogy and are not merely metaphors.

	â€œWhile Sr. Johnson is well within the Catholic theological tradition when she maintains that human language is never adequate to express the reality of God, she departs from that tradition when she makes the more radical claim that human language does not attain to the reality of God,~~â€~~ the statement says.		â€œWhile Sr. Johnson is well within the Catholic theological tradition when she maintains that human language is never adequate to express the reality of God, she departs from that tradition when she makes the more radical claim that human language does not attain to the reality of God,” the statement says.

	The Committee also criticizes her characterization of the Church's names for God as humanly-constructed metaphors that can be replaced by novel human constructions that are intended to help transform society in a positive way by promoting the socio-political status of women.		The Committee also criticizes her characterization of the Church's names for God as humanly-constructed metaphors that can be replaced by novel human constructions that are intended to help transform society in a positive way by promoting the socio-political status of women.

	â€œWhat is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,~~â€~~ the statement says. â€œThe names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."		â€œWhat is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,” the statement says. â€œThe names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."
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	Modernism was opposed by Pius IX in the nineteenth century and was defined and condemned explicitly by Pius X in 1907 [http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_x/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_19070908_pascendi-dominici-gregis_en.html ("Pascendi Dominici Gregis").] He called it "the synthesis of all heresies."		Modernism was opposed by Pius IX in the nineteenth century and was defined and condemned explicitly by Pius X in 1907 [http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_x/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_19070908_pascendi-dominici-gregis_en.html ("Pascendi Dominici Gregis").] He called it "the synthesis of all heresies."

			The predecessor of Catholic Modernism was Protestant Liberalism in the 19th century.

			:; [http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-liberal-protestant-future-of-catholic-dissent "The Liberal Protestant Future of Catholic Dissent."]

			:: Liberal Protestantism began, in H. Richard Niebuhrâ€™s famous words, with the belief that â€œA God without wrath brought men without sin into a kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a cross.â€ Its logical culmination is found in the likes of Gary Hall, the Dean of Washingtonâ€™s National Cathedral, who just told The Washington Post that â€œI describe myself as a non-theistic Christian.â€

	== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==		== The Litany of the Catholic Buts ==

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	* [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10415a.htm ''Catholic Encyclopedia,'' "Modernism."]		* [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10415a.htm ''Catholic Encyclopedia,'' "Modernism."]
			* [[All the -isms]].

	[[Category:Schismatic Catholics]]		[[Category:Schismatic Catholics]]

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Elizabeth Johnson

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	â€œWhat is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,â€ the statement says. â€œThe names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."		â€œWhat is lacking in the whole of this discussion is any sense of the essential centrality of divine revelation as the basis of Christian theology,â€ the statement says. â€œThe names of God found in the Scriptures are not mere human creations that can be replaced by others that we may find more suitable according to our own human judgment. The standard by which all theological assertions must be judged is that provided by divine revelation, not by unaided human understanding."
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			== Links ==
			* [http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10415a.htm ''Catholic Encyclopedia,'' "Modernism."]

	[[Category:Schismatic Catholics]]		[[Category:Schismatic Catholics]]

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	* "All religions are just human inventions. It makes no difference what religion you are. God is love and He loves all of His children equally."		* "All religions are just human inventions. It makes no difference what religion you are. God is love and He loves all of His children equally."
	* "Let your children dwell in darkness. Religion is just a guessing game. Their guess is as good as yours. Let them invent their own religion. Don't stuff yours down their throats."		* "Let your children dwell in darkness. Religion is just a guessing game. Their guess is as good as yours. Let them invent their own religion. Don't stuff yours down their throats."

			:; [http://www.catholic.com/blog/todd-aglialoro/me-my-god-and-i "Me, My God, and I."]

			:: In a twist on Robert Frostâ€™s old saw about vers libre poetry, a priest friend of mine once remarked, â€œBeing spiritual but not religious is like playing tennis without a net.â€

	== Relativism ==		== Relativism ==

Modernism - Revision history

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