Varieties of non-Catholic Christianity - Revision history

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	The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:		The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:

	; [http://www.thearda.com/Denoms/families/index.asp Association of Religion Data Archives--Denominational Profiles in the U.S.]		; [http://www.thearda.com/Denoms/families/index.asp Association of Religion Data Archives — Denominational Profiles in the U.S.]

	; [http://www.thearda.com/Denoms/families/trees.asp Denominational Family Trees in the U.S.]		; [http://www.thearda.com/Denoms/families/trees.asp Denominational Family Trees in the U.S.]
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	** Harvey Cox		** Harvey Cox
	** Gregory Baum		** Gregory Baum
	* Syncretistic--New Age		* Syncretistic — New Age
	** Matthew Fox, The dancing bear		** Matthew Fox, The dancing bear
	** Hindu/Buddhist Christianity		** Hindu/Buddhist Christianity
	** Neo-pagan (Druids, witches, warlocks; really, anti-christians, so perhaps they don't belong here at all.		** Neo-pagan (Druids, witches, warlocks; really, anti-christians, so perhaps they don't belong here at all.

	* [http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/february/11.35.html Emerging Churches]--postmodern Christianity.		* [http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/february/11.35.html Emerging Churches] — postmodern Christianity.

	Apocalyptic		Apocalyptic

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	\|Martin Luther inaugurates the '''classical, mainline Protestant schisms'''		\|Martin Luther inaugurates the '''classical, mainline Protestant schisms'''
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	\|[[Schismatic catholics\|New "Catholic" schisms]]		\|[[Schismatic catholics\|New "Catholic" schisms]]
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	* [http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations/comparison_charts.htm "Comparison charts."]		* [http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations/comparison_charts.htm "Comparison charts."]
	* [http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm "The Facts and Stats on 33000 Denominations."]		* [http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm "The Facts and Stats on 33000 Denominations."]
			* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_church "Emerging Church."]
	[[Category:Protestantism]]		[[Category:Protestantism]]

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	== Links ==		== Links ==

			* [[Christian Schisms]].
	* [http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations/comparison_charts.htm "Comparison charts."]		* [http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/denominations/comparison_charts.htm "Comparison charts."]
	* [http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm "The Facts and Stats on 33000 Denominations."]		* [http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm "The Facts and Stats on 33000 Denominations."]

	[[Category:Protestantism]]		[[Category:Protestantism]]

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Some identifiable groups

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	Fundamentalist		Fundamentalist
	* Biblical literalists		* Biblical literalists
			* [[Messianic Jews]]

	Modernist		Modernist

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	Because non-Catholics disagree with each other as much or more than they disagree with the Catholic Church, there is only one true statement that can be made about all of them as a group: ''whatever they have kept from the Catholic Tradition unites them with Catholics; whatever they have rejected from or added to the Catholic Tradition separates them from Catholics.''		Because non-Catholics disagree with each other as much or more than they disagree with the Catholic Church, there is only one true statement that can be made about all of them as a group: ''whatever they have kept from the Catholic Tradition unites them with Catholics; whatever they have rejected from or added to the Catholic Tradition separates them from Catholics.''

	There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."		There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent [[non-denominational Christians]] want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."

	A technical distinction is made by some between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_%28religion%29#Christianity schismatics and heretics.] The "schismatics" are those such as the [[Eastern Orthodox]] who retain the basic doctrine and sacraments of Catholicism but reject the jurisdiction of the Pope. "Heretics" reject part of the tradition and keep part of the tradition. For my purposes, "schismatic" is the better general category for all who splinter away from Mother Church, regardless of whether they accept much or little of the [[Deposit of Faith]], including the recent [[:Category:Schismatic Catholics\|"Catholic" Schisms in the West.]]		A technical distinction is made by some between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_%28religion%29#Christianity schismatics and heretics.] The "schismatics" are those such as the [[Eastern Orthodox]] who retain the basic doctrine and sacraments of Catholicism but reject the jurisdiction of the Pope. "Heretics" reject part of the tradition and keep part of the tradition. For my purposes, "schismatic" is the better general category for all who splinter away from Mother Church, regardless of whether they accept much or little of the [[Deposit of Faith]], including the recent [[:Category:Schismatic Catholics\|"Catholic" Schisms in the West.]]
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	\|Rise of '''non-denominationalism'''; thousands or tens of thousands of independent Christian groups that do not want to be called "Protestant" or be identified with any kind of Christianity other than their local church.		\|Rise of '''[[non-denominationalism]]'''; thousands or tens of thousands of independent Christian groups that do not want to be called "Protestant" or be identified with any kind of Christianity other than their local church.
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	* Lutheran		* Lutheran
	* Methodist / Wesleyan		* Methodist / Wesleyan
	* Non-denominational		* [[Non-denominational]]
	* Pentecostal (Charismatic)		* Pentecostal (Charismatic)
	* Presbyterian		* Presbyterian

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	There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."		There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."

	A technical distinction is made by some between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_%28religion%29#Christianity schismatics and heretics.] The "schismatics" are those such as the [[Eastern Orthodox]] who retain the basic doctrine and sacraments of Catholicism but reject the jurisdiction of the Pope. "Heretics" reject part of the tradition and keep part of the tradition. For my purposes, "schismatic" is the better general category for all who splinter away from Mother Church, regardless of whether they accept much or little of the [[Deposit of Faith]].		A technical distinction is made by some between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_%28religion%29#Christianity schismatics and heretics.] The "schismatics" are those such as the [[Eastern Orthodox]] who retain the basic doctrine and sacraments of Catholicism but reject the jurisdiction of the Pope. "Heretics" reject part of the tradition and keep part of the tradition. For my purposes, "schismatic" is the better general category for all who splinter away from Mother Church, regardless of whether they accept much or little of the [[Deposit of Faith]], including the recent [[:Category:Schismatic Catholics\|"Catholic" Schisms in the West.]]

	The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:		The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:

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	There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."		There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."

			A technical distinction is made by some between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schism_%28religion%29#Christianity schismatics and heretics.] The "schismatics" are those such as the [[Eastern Orthodox]] who retain the basic doctrine and sacraments of Catholicism but reject the jurisdiction of the Pope. "Heretics" reject part of the tradition and keep part of the tradition. For my purposes, "schismatic" is the better general category for all who splinter away from Mother Church, regardless of whether they accept much or little of the [[Deposit of Faith]].

	The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:		The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:

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	Because non-Catholics disagree with each other as much or more than they disagree with the Catholic Church, there is only one true statement that can be made about all of them as a group: ''whatever they have kept from the Catholic Tradition unites them with Catholics; whatever they have rejected from or added to the Catholic Tradition separates them from Catholics.''		Because non-Catholics disagree with each other as much or more than they disagree with the Catholic Church, there is only one true statement that can be made about all of them as a group: ''whatever they have kept from the Catholic Tradition unites them with Catholics; whatever they have rejected from or added to the Catholic Tradition separates them from Catholics.''

	There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy.		There isn't even a convenient label for all of the kinds of non-Catholic Christianities; neither the ancient Eastern schismatics nor many of the recent non-denominational Christians want to be identified as "Protestants"; I still tend to lump all of the Western schismatics together as Protestants because it is a handier term than "non-Catholic Christian," but I have seen that this makes some of the more recent schismatics unhappy; they do not want to be associated with any other form of Christianity from history or from some other part of the world. Since they still do meet as a group, they have not yet reached the logical conclusion of one person per Church, but they come as close as they can to the ideal of "just me and my Bible."

	The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:		The schisms in Christianity date to different times and places:

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Derivatives of the Catholic Church

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	This table comes from from the chart, "Derivation of Protestant Denominations," in ''Catholicism: The Faith of our Fathers'' by Albert J. Nevins (Huntington: Our Sunday Visitor, 1995).		This table comes from from the chart, "Derivation of Protestant Denominations," in ''Catholicism: The Faith of our Fathers'' by Albert J. Nevins (Huntington: Our Sunday Visitor, 1995).

	~~It needs to be reorganized chronologically.~~		I've reorganized this table chronologically in an [[Christian Schisms\|outline of Christian schisms.]]

	I've ~~added some chronological information~~ in ~~this~~ [[Christian Schisms\|outline of Christian schisms.]]

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