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== Do all observers see the sun at the same location at dawn? ==
== Do all observers see the sun at the same location at dawn? ==
Pretty nearly.  It doesn't vary as much as I predicted from drawing 2 dimensional pictures of the 3 dimensional reality. 
I collected these charts and tables on 11 September 2010, which is close to the fall equinox.  At dawn, someone near Buffalo would see the sun at 83.1 degrees, which would generate LOP perpendicular to the sun sighting of 353-173.  The sunrise azimuth at Howland would be 85.59 and 85.65 at Niku, giving a LOP of 355-175.
I don't know whether the difference is due to the earth not being a perfect sphere or solely to the difference in the latitude of the observers.
Source: [http://www.sunearthtools.com/dp/tools/pos_sun.php www.sunearthtools.com - Sun position calculator:]
Source: [http://www.sunearthtools.com/dp/tools/pos_sun.php www.sunearthtools.com - Sun position calculator:]
=== Howland ===
=== Howland ===
{|
{|{{Prettytable}}
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|Latitude  
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|Longitude  
|Longitude  
|176.61624
|176.61624
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|Sunrise Azimuth
|85.59
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=== Niku ===
=== Niku ===
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{|{{Prettytable}}
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|Latitude  
|Latitude  
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|4.67792
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|Longitude  
|Longitude  
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|174.5196
|-
|Sunrise Azimuth
|85.65
|}
|}
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=== Near Buffalo ===
=== Near Buffalo ===
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|Latitude  
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|Longitude  
|Longitude  
|78.82926
|78.82926
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|Sunrise Azimuth
|83.1
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|}
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[[File:2010-09-11 Buffalo table.png]]
[[File:2010-09-11 Buffalo table.png]]
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== Gallery ==
[[File:Terminator.png]]
[[File:Summer solstice 2 overlaid.png]]
[[File:Winter solstice 2.png]]
[[File:Summer diagram.png|240px]]
[[File:Winter diagram.png|240px]]

Latest revision as of 14:13, 17 September 2010

Do all observers see the sun at the same location at dawn?

Pretty nearly. It doesn't vary as much as I predicted from drawing 2 dimensional pictures of the 3 dimensional reality.

I collected these charts and tables on 11 September 2010, which is close to the fall equinox. At dawn, someone near Buffalo would see the sun at 83.1 degrees, which would generate LOP perpendicular to the sun sighting of 353-173. The sunrise azimuth at Howland would be 85.59 and 85.65 at Niku, giving a LOP of 355-175.

I don't know whether the difference is due to the earth not being a perfect sphere or solely to the difference in the latitude of the observers.

Source: www.sunearthtools.com - Sun position calculator:

Howland

Latitude 0.80108
Longitude 176.61624
Sunrise Azimuth 85.59

Niku

Latitude 4.67792
Longitude 174.5196
Sunrise Azimuth 85.65

Near Buffalo

Latitude 42.57264
Longitude 78.82926
Sunrise Azimuth 83.1

Gallery